tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2856547151523423474.post6743867002080131488..comments2024-03-12T12:38:23.542-04:00Comments on The Kind of Face You Hate: TOERIFC: The Already Perfect Reptilebill r.http://www.blogger.com/profile/17748572205731857892noreply@blogger.comBlogger183125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2856547151523423474.post-66994153206841572372010-10-23T09:33:32.394-04:002010-10-23T09:33:32.394-04:00As a film, The Serpent's Egg fails to achieve ...As a film, The Serpent's Egg fails to achieve what its more distinguished model is mostly famous for: <a href="http://bit.ly/alaCl8" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/alaCl8</a>Brett Gerryhttp://www.brettgerry.co.uknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2856547151523423474.post-63122365568502353512009-11-20T21:17:03.077-05:002009-11-20T21:17:03.077-05:00I can't believe you folks did all this over an...I can't believe you folks did all this over analysis in just a couple of days. I just wonder if it occurred to any of you that Bergman hired Carradine because he liked him for the part and that Carradine did just what Bergman wanted him to do. Just a thought.Dot B.https://www.blogger.com/profile/09330058378818569134noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2856547151523423474.post-48488088212871197502009-04-22T14:56:00.000-04:002009-04-22T14:56:00.000-04:00But Cain killed Abel, not the other way around...
...<I>But Cain killed Abel, not the other way around</I>...<br /><br />I know, I said that! But it still has to mean something! <br /><br />And I do not recognize the authority of the WBCCIA.<br /><br />181!bill r.https://www.blogger.com/profile/17748572205731857892noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2856547151523423474.post-43079598387823832762009-04-22T14:27:00.000-04:002009-04-22T14:27:00.000-04:00But Cain killed Abel, not the other way around. H...But Cain killed Abel, not the other way around. Hey, you just made it to 180!<br /><br />Anyway, this is the third day of the post. Any comments after the second day don't count towards the official total tallied by the World Blog Comment Counting International Association.Greghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05730146625671701859noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2856547151523423474.post-41251250182639453442009-04-22T12:33:00.000-04:002009-04-22T12:33:00.000-04:00I just realized that nobody brought up the fact th...I just realized that nobody brought up the fact that Carradine's character is named "Abel" and he has a brother, and even though the brother isn't named "Cain" and doesn't murder him, nobody names a character "Abel" on accident, so Bergman must have meant something by that. If I'd remember to bring that up, this thread probably would have reached 317 comments!bill r.https://www.blogger.com/profile/17748572205731857892noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2856547151523423474.post-71553557650401682852009-04-21T21:16:00.000-04:002009-04-21T21:16:00.000-04:00If you don't reach 175 we will all consider you in...<I>If you don't reach 175 we will all consider you inadequate.</I>Yikes! The pressure's on!Patricia Perryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15394997608325540950noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2856547151523423474.post-29147471148771057722009-04-21T19:59:00.000-04:002009-04-21T19:59:00.000-04:00You know, usually I throw a party if I reach 10 co...You know, usually I throw a party if I reach 10 comments. I don't know if my blog can handle more...Ed Howardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18014222247676090467noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2856547151523423474.post-39657039832349291082009-04-21T18:43:00.000-04:002009-04-21T18:43:00.000-04:00If it flips it flips. Enough stragglers in the co...If it flips it flips. Enough stragglers in the comments and it will. But a forced flip - that's just not the real thing and Bill would always know it. <br /><br />This is comment 176. I just checked the other three and Marilyn had 176, Rick had 185 and I had 235. <br /><br />However, mine would have stopped around 175 to 180 but then the whole child pornography thing started up which led to a discussion of prostitution. So basically what I'm saying is, of my 235 around 180 are active commenting about the movie. <br /><br />So I think 175 to 185 is about the average for all of us to get through the discussion. <br /><br />So basically, Pat, Ed, Fox, Flickhead and all the rest - If you don't reach 175 we will all consider you inadequate.Greghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05730146625671701859noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2856547151523423474.post-86298260717934303662009-04-21T17:21:00.000-04:002009-04-21T17:21:00.000-04:00!%@!^t^$#(&$()*_)*(&*)%)^&$
Gamar, bla...!%@!^t^$#(&$()*_)*(&*)%)^&$<br />Gamar, blat park gammati ek tuo bartimi.<br /><br />worass pi numini deckir sudomoni.<br /><br /><br />rpout!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2856547151523423474.post-64423586746792176912009-04-21T15:27:00.000-04:002009-04-21T15:27:00.000-04:00What am I supposed to do? Just keep typing gibber...What am I supposed to do? Just keep typing gibberish comments until the thing flips over? Besides, once it flips, I think that means we have to do all the comments again in reverse.bill r.https://www.blogger.com/profile/17748572205731857892noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2856547151523423474.post-59004468458229109882009-04-21T15:21:00.000-04:002009-04-21T15:21:00.000-04:00Dude... are really gonna NOT let this post get fli...Dude... are really gonna NOT let this post get flipped??? I think it deserves it.Foxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08067136509248849744noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2856547151523423474.post-13188311855993866692009-04-21T13:49:00.000-04:002009-04-21T13:49:00.000-04:00I don't mean to get all New Age on you, because I ...<I>I don't mean to get all New Age on you, because I hate that bullshit, but what defines a dream reality if reality is just perception?</I>...<br /><br />Sleeping. That sounds pretty glib, but I do kinda mean it. If we're talking about our -- yours and mine -- actual existence. If we're talking about <B>The Serpent's Egg</B>, or Lynch, then...well, with Lynch, probably nothing really defines it. It's all a nightmarish jumble.bill r.https://www.blogger.com/profile/17748572205731857892noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2856547151523423474.post-52736615120844972182009-04-21T13:44:00.000-04:002009-04-21T13:44:00.000-04:00Bill-
I don't mean to get all New Age on you, bec...Bill-<br /><br />I don't mean to get all New Age on you, because I hate that bullshit, but what defines a dream reality if reality is just perception?<br /><br />I really hate the way I just sounded but it's true, no?JOSEPH CAMPANELLAhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18432551762553721818noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2856547151523423474.post-80064674664361490052009-04-21T13:35:00.000-04:002009-04-21T13:35:00.000-04:00Um...Fox? You just blew my mind all over my pants...Um...Fox? You just blew my <I>mind</I> all over my <I>pants</I>!!bill r.https://www.blogger.com/profile/17748572205731857892noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2856547151523423474.post-81772217081729251062009-04-21T13:30:00.000-04:002009-04-21T13:30:00.000-04:00What if this entire TOERIFC post is a hallucinatio...What if this entire TOERIFC post is a hallucination?!?!?Foxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08067136509248849744noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2856547151523423474.post-25296178722240793842009-04-21T13:17:00.000-04:002009-04-21T13:17:00.000-04:00Greg: "I said that like 70 comments ago. I can't b...Greg: "I said that like 70 comments ago. I can't believe Ed doesn't have every single comment memorized. I do."<br /><br />Damn, I was hoping no one would remember you said it first. I was trying to look all smart and steal your thunder.<br /><br />Oh well. Reading 150+ comment threads while also trying to get at least <I>something</I> done at work isn't always optimal for reading and remembering everything.Ed Howardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18014222247676090467noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2856547151523423474.post-62533953900216363342009-04-21T12:59:00.000-04:002009-04-21T12:59:00.000-04:00Joseph -
If I once found a criterion copy of CAR...Joseph - <br /><br /><I>If I once found a criterion copy of CARNIVAL OF SOULS for $10 used and I bought it... <br /><br />But I already owned the disc!</I>...<br /><br />I have yet to go that far...but I can kinda understand.<br /><br /><I>EGG is a just dirty feeling. Maybe this is the intention?</I>...<br /><br />I would think so. How else should it look, after all?<br /><br /><I>Why do we have to pin point the moment of hallucination? Does it matter. A movie is a movie. It's never real life, so why does it matter if we know exactly what is supposed to be real and what isn't. It's like watching MULHOLLAND DRIVE. Sure, we can make our guesses as to what is happening in the story, but I love the fact that it all seems real and a dream at the same time.</I>...<br /><br />Well, we don't <I>have</I> to, you're right. The reason I've pushed that is because the crazy hallucinationists we have running around here talk about that scene as though it could be seen as nothing BUT a hallucination (some, like Greg, would have you believe they have no stake in this, and are playing Devil's Advocate, but don't you believe them!). I just want to point out that IF it's a hallucination, than presumably it would have to start somewhere, and how far back are you willing to go, and at one point does the hallucination theory begin to contradict the other things you believe to hold true for the film? "Hallucination" just seems like an easy way out to me, the same as the theory that <B>Mulholland Drive</B> is all a dream. Yeah, okay, that <I>works</I>, I guess, but it's also, to me, a very boring approach to the film.<br /><br />But I agree with you 100 per cent that <B>The Serpent's Egg</B> is ambiguous, and I like that about it.bill r.https://www.blogger.com/profile/17748572205731857892noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2856547151523423474.post-59433355327773901462009-04-21T12:45:00.000-04:002009-04-21T12:45:00.000-04:00Bill-
If I once found a criterion copy of CARNIVA...Bill-<br /><br />If I once found a criterion copy of CARNIVAL OF SOULS for $10 used and I bought it... <br /><br />But I already owned the disc!<br /><br />Criterion, at a cheap price, means purchase in my language.<br /><br />On the use of color in this film, I think it's a little murky. I've recently watched THE VIRGIN SPRING which makes each shot look like a carefully exposed photograph. EGG is a just dirty feeling. Maybe this is the intention?<br /><br />On the subject of the phantom hand...<br /><br />Why do we have to pin point the moment of hallucination? Does it matter. A movie is a movie. It's never real life, so why does it matter if we know exactly what is supposed to be real and what isn't. It's like watching MULHOLLAND DRIVE. Sure, we can make our guesses as to what is happening in the story, but I love the fact that it all seems real and a dream at the same time.JOSEPH CAMPANELLAhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18432551762553721818noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2856547151523423474.post-50336057311909384792009-04-21T12:20:00.000-04:002009-04-21T12:20:00.000-04:00You made me feel bad for spending that five dollar...<I>You made me feel bad for spending that five dollars.</I>...<br /><br />I bet Jarvis would buy it for at least $20. He's pretty gullible.Foxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08067136509248849744noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2856547151523423474.post-61684492586931297802009-04-21T12:16:00.000-04:002009-04-21T12:16:00.000-04:00Fine, Fox and Ed, I'll watch the miniseries. Are ...Fine, Fox and Ed, I'll watch the miniseries. Are you guys happy? You made me feel bad for spending that five dollars.<br /><br />Greg - What about "in"? I was trying to keep track of that word, but I lost count.bill r.https://www.blogger.com/profile/17748572205731857892noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2856547151523423474.post-74964163758257399812009-04-21T12:15:00.000-04:002009-04-21T12:15:00.000-04:00How quickly we forget:
Whether it be bedframes, w...How quickly we forget:<br /><br /><I>Whether it be bedframes, window frames or gates, Abel finds himself behind bars a lot in this movie. He is metaphorically imprisoned throughout. </I>I said that like 70 comments ago. I can't believe Ed doesn't have every single comment memorized. I do. For instance, the word "the" has been used 847 times so far. And that's just off the top of my head.Greghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05730146625671701859noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2856547151523423474.post-74761210149095026212009-04-21T11:49:00.000-04:002009-04-21T11:49:00.000-04:00I'm gonna be a booger here...
But Bill, I strong...I'm gonna be a booger here... <br /><br />But Bill, I strongly urge that you watch the television version of <B>Fanny & Alexander</B> if you can. $5 is a good deal fo' sho, but I watched the theatrical one <I>after</I> I had seen the 5 hour TV one, and it was kind of a rape of the movie in comparison. It's like watching <B>Citizen Kane</B> in a condenced 25 minute version, or something.<br /><br />Also, Ed, is correct about the use of color in <B>Cries and Whispers</B>, and I think having seen some of Bergman's other color films prior to seeing <B>The Serpent's Egg</B>, is the reason I saw Bergman's effort with it as "lazier".Foxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08067136509248849744noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2856547151523423474.post-14689255357406865822009-04-21T11:40:00.000-04:002009-04-21T11:40:00.000-04:00Yeah, the bars are a big thing, so it's funny I di...Yeah, the bars are a big thing, so it's funny I didn't bring them up, isn't it? Anyway, I kind of liked how, a couple of times, when Abel was faced with another set of bars, he'd get this look on his face like, "What, are you kidding? <I>Again</I>??" Even HE was aware of it!bill r.https://www.blogger.com/profile/17748572205731857892noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2856547151523423474.post-58956576191861502432009-04-21T11:19:00.000-04:002009-04-21T11:19:00.000-04:00Yeah, "deal with it" is better.
On another note, ...Yeah, "deal with it" is better.<br /><br />On another note, one thing I loved about this film and haven't mentioned so far is the visual use of bars and gratings layered over Abel's face. This was a common film noir trope -- and Abel often looks like a noir hero in his fedora and trenchcoat, wandering through rain-streaked streets -- to indicate the trapped, walled-in state of a protagonist. Here, even when he's lying in bed at Manuela's house, the iron bars of the bed across his face look like prison bars. And the shot is mirrored not long after when he's actually in prison, reminding us of the earlier shot. There's a sense that it doesn't really matter where Abel is: he's trapped wherever he goes. These images recur throughout the film, especially in the apartment towards the end of the film.Ed Howardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18014222247676090467noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2856547151523423474.post-5595539604921809192009-04-21T11:15:00.000-04:002009-04-21T11:15:00.000-04:00The film doesn't depict the Holocaust, but it's ob...<I>The film doesn't depict the Holocaust, but it's obviously an attempt to explain the situation that led to it.</I>...<br /><br />I really don't think that "explain" is the right word. "Deal with it" is maybe better, because I don't think he's trying to offer an actual, usable answer.<br /><br />And I know the F&A miniseries is supposed to beat the theatrical cut all to shit, and I knew that when I bought the DVD, but what am I supposed to do? It was a Criterion disc for five bucks!bill r.https://www.blogger.com/profile/17748572205731857892noreply@blogger.com