tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2856547151523423474.post609434141078774309..comments2024-03-12T15:02:45.193-04:00Comments on The Kind of Face You Hate: CENSOREDbill r.http://www.blogger.com/profile/17748572205731857892noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2856547151523423474.post-13009709505816873742010-04-24T14:31:10.803-04:002010-04-24T14:31:10.803-04:00What? I can't peer into Ed's thoughts!What? I can't peer into Ed's thoughts!bill r.https://www.blogger.com/profile/17748572205731857892noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2856547151523423474.post-73475788689296398872010-04-24T12:36:26.128-04:002010-04-24T12:36:26.128-04:00Okie dokie.Okie dokie.Greghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05730146625671701859noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2856547151523423474.post-27969770915734482002010-04-23T13:11:23.725-04:002010-04-23T13:11:23.725-04:00Wait, was over the top? My joke or his reaction?Wait, was over the top? My joke or his reaction?Greghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05730146625671701859noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2856547151523423474.post-16314193093831786542010-04-23T12:49:54.992-04:002010-04-23T12:49:54.992-04:00The ending, where multiple "I learned somethi...<i>The ending, where multiple "I learned something today"-type messages are entirely bleeped out, seems to be a specific response to the censorship</i>...<br /><br />Right, and then after the bleeps are done, they cut to Stan, who says "Yeah!" That's the only evidence I can see that this is a stunt, but I agree, if anything close to that has occurred, the scenario you laid out is the most likely.bill r.https://www.blogger.com/profile/17748572205731857892noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2856547151523423474.post-42022292876474365102010-04-23T12:36:35.453-04:002010-04-23T12:36:35.453-04:00It's possible, I suppose, that it's just a...It's possible, I suppose, that it's just a stunt, but I'd be surprised. I think it's more likely that Parker and Stone knew they were going to get censored and designed the episode with that eventuality in mind. Although, I don't know if they could've predicted that even the name Muhammad would get censored altogether. The ending, where multiple "I learned something today"-type messages are entirely bleeped out, seems to be a specific response to the censorship, and I wonder if that was added after they found out about Comedy Central's decision.Ed Howardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18014222247676090467noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2856547151523423474.post-10798436072340352622010-04-23T12:23:19.194-04:002010-04-23T12:23:19.194-04:00It was a VERY specific homage to THE KILLING JOKE,...It was a VERY specific homage to THE KILLING JOKE, right down to the coloring. I thought the way they capped off that plotline, about Cartman's dad, was pretty brilliant.<br /><br />So, Ed, what are your thoughts about this possibly being a publicity stunt/joke? The comic timing of some of those bleeps makes me slightly suspicious. Not much, but a bit.bill r.https://www.blogger.com/profile/17748572205731857892noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2856547151523423474.post-62470990571223450752010-04-23T08:40:26.272-04:002010-04-23T08:40:26.272-04:00Sorry, Greg, I assumed the story was too over-the-...Sorry, Greg, I assumed the story was too over-the-top to be true. <br /><br />Anyway, Scott Tenorman as the Joker was great. I'm not surprised that Parker and Stone are comics nerds, I guess, but I was a little surprised to see what seemed to be a rather specific homage to <i>The Killing Joke</i>.Ed Howardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18014222247676090467noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2856547151523423474.post-48482505281733381662010-04-22T21:21:34.457-04:002010-04-22T21:21:34.457-04:00I liked when Scott Tenorman was the Joker...I liked when Scott Tenorman was the Joker...bill r.https://www.blogger.com/profile/17748572205731857892noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2856547151523423474.post-26056240352199632692010-04-22T19:36:20.595-04:002010-04-22T19:36:20.595-04:00Now I'm confused. You thought I made it up? ...Now I'm confused. You thought I made it up? No way, that was for real. I just had second thoughts about making my case by relating a story where I made jokes about a person's religious practice. Doesn't exactly prop up one's point very well.Greghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05730146625671701859noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2856547151523423474.post-79698548930096852442010-04-22T19:27:26.919-04:002010-04-22T19:27:26.919-04:00Wait, Greg, you were serious about that story? I t...Wait, Greg, you were serious about that story? I thought you were joking until I saw you deleted it. Wow.Ed Howardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18014222247676090467noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2856547151523423474.post-33867692861286582302010-04-22T19:26:29.503-04:002010-04-22T19:26:29.503-04:00Yeah, it's pretty sad how thin-skinned the Mus...Yeah, it's pretty sad how thin-skinned the Muslim religion is — or rather how hyper-sensitive and scared everyone else is about them — and I admire Parker and Stone's willingness to go after this hypocrisy, knowing they were going to get censored and making that fact the whole point of the episode. I mean, it's hard to miss the hypocrisy inherent in an episode where the network allows Buddha to be shown doing lines of cocaine, and Jesus taking his own name in vain, and then can't even <i>show</i> Mohamed or say his name without bleeping it out.Ed Howardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18014222247676090467noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2856547151523423474.post-3171850965617512732010-04-22T19:23:12.870-04:002010-04-22T19:23:12.870-04:00I just get really sensitive about this topic becau...I just get really sensitive about this topic because, I'll be honest, a lot of the belief stuff bothers me to my core. When it has a rigid fundamental tint, like hardcore Islam, I tense up and start prepping for a fight. You always hear not to talk about religion or politics and, man, it's true. Those subjects get one's ire up.Greghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05730146625671701859noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2856547151523423474.post-62208900356272710402010-04-22T19:17:21.096-04:002010-04-22T19:17:21.096-04:00Now I feel like I should delete my comment so I do...Now I feel like I should delete my comment so I don't come off looking like a scumbag or something because you're right, it's the hypocrisy and that was a personal story with me looking like the insensitive one. Oh well, you already read it anyway.Greghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05730146625671701859noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2856547151523423474.post-29978962312060519532010-04-22T18:32:38.592-04:002010-04-22T18:32:38.592-04:00I don't want to go too far either, and really ...I don't want to go too far either, and really my major problem is the hypocrisy. Any time someone wants to make a criticism of Islam, they, or someone else, has to qualify it with "Most Muslims aren't like that." And I believe that, too. But nobody ever qualifies their insults of Christians in the same way. That's considered fair game, and you needn't bother justifying anything you say about them. And it's fucking maddening.bill r.https://www.blogger.com/profile/17748572205731857892noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2856547151523423474.post-37319465540927015302010-04-22T18:26:41.494-04:002010-04-22T18:26:41.494-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.Greghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05730146625671701859noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2856547151523423474.post-25996135033211133472010-04-22T18:15:16.606-04:002010-04-22T18:15:16.606-04:00No, no, thank you! My biggest problem with this i...No, no, thank you! My biggest problem with this is the lack of outrage I'm seeing from the people who get so bent out of shape about this sort of behavior from other religions. Parker and Stone are among the very few people willing to call bullshit on this, and they get jerked around for it. I hate it! The blatant hypocrisy that's EVERYWHERE these days drives me up the fucking wall! Everybody acts like they've just struck a blow for the little guy every time they take shots at Christians, and they fucking clam the fuck up when something like this happens.<br /><br />GAAAHHH!bill r.https://www.blogger.com/profile/17748572205731857892noreply@blogger.com